the allure of gmail

May 24, 2008

While I was over at my father’s place on my laptop I was once again annoyed at the fact that Thunderbird doesn’t have any built-in synchronization capability. Is it possible to sync t-bird from one computer to another? Yes, but it’s a severe pain in the ass so I don’t do it.

For a brief moment I considered switching back to Gmail (I completely switched off of it a few months ago.) So I logged into my Gmail account. I was immediately disgusted with it and was quickly reminded why I hated it so much, such as..

  • Bold and underlined Spam “folder.” There is absolutely no reason this has to be so THERE if you get my meaning. You’re compelled to click on it because it sticks out like a sore thumb. Who cares? It’s fucking spam!
  • Hover-over crapola. Gmail now has more crap that happens when you hover over a specific mail. A pop-up menu appears whether you want it to or not when your mouse is over any specific mail. And if you try to use the menu, *poof* it disappears. You have to play a boxing match with your computer just to find out what the stupid fucking menu does. And when you finally do you see it’s worthless. Gee, thanks Gmail.
  • Still no way to sort by size.
  • Still no way to sort by priority.
  • Still no folders.
  • Almost as bloated as Yahoo Mail and Hotmail (Don’t be fooled by the clean interface, there’s a lot of crap that loads in the background.)

The only advantage is that the interface FINALLY has colors for labels.

So why did I consider switching back?

Three reasons:

  1. Looks the same no matter what computer you use.
  2. Space.
  3. Contact list is accessible anywhere.

Reason #1 is both a pro and a con. It’s a pro because it’s the same everywhere and a con because the interface fucking sucks.

Reason #2 is (pun not intended) big. At present you get 6.75GB of e-mail storage. That’s a shitload and definitely more than what I have now with my hosted mail.

Reason #3 is also both a pro and con. You can access your contact list via Gmail anywhere which is cool. But let’s say you want to export your list. You only have the options of the “Google format” CSV for import to another Gmail account, Outlook CSV or vCard. That’s it. There are no standardized export methods (and I’m sorry but Outlook is not standard, it’s Microsoft.)

The crux of the biscuit is that if you stay wholly within the Gmail interface, you’re just fine. But try to use outside of it and you lose all the Gmail functionality.

I mean, yeah, sure, you’ve got almost 7GB’s of space, but are forced to endure a bunch of catches that will drive you up a frickin’ wall.

Needless to say I decided to stick with Thunderbird. It’s the only client that does what I want it to do without any bullshit involved.

To note: I would use the Windows Live Mail client but you cannot add filters to incoming IMAP mail and that fucking blows big donkey nuts. So I use t-bird.

It is imperfect but it works and beats the ever-lovin’ shit out of the “Google way” of doing e-mail.


4 Responses to “the allure of gmail”

  1. Silentside says:

    i agree to some of your points.
    As per the latest post in the gmail team’s blog, they have made attempts to speed up the interface.I am impressed by the speed by which it loads.

    and yes, i agree with you over that annoying fly-out menus.They can screw at times.

    About labels,personally, i love labels more.I’ve marked them with colours so that everything is neat and proper.
    But, i know you love folder-type grouping over this ”label” crap ;)

    Me use the so called ‘’space” by utilizing the gmail shell extension for storing data online :)

  2. Jeff says:

    Have you tried using IMAP for your Thunderbird account? That’s what I do and it synchs on my work computer, home, and my smart phone (when I want to check my email on my phone that is).

  3. Rich says:

    I have used Gmail with IMAP using t-bird; it was one of the reasons I switched to it originally in the first place. The problem is that Google’s IMAP isn’t the same as regular IMAP for two reasons:

    1. It uses an SSL connection that while more secure slows it down quite a bit.

    2. Google’s servers constantly get slammed with requests that also add to the slowness. Periodic server time-outs do occur. It’s nothing major but it is annoying.

    You also lose a ton of functionality using Gmail with IMAP (small example: you can’t import the contact list with t-bird.)

    My belief is that if you use Gmail it’s best to use the Gmail interface so you can take advantage of all the features and keep everything the same no matter how you access it.

  4. Rich says:

    One more follow-up: If you were asking if I use IMAP for my existing mail *now*, yes I do. The issue is that I can’t sync Thunderbird-specific stuff between different computers (such as message filters, contact list, etc.) as there’s no automated way to do that currently using that software.